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Your first Whittle designed jet engines were just handed over on a plate
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a British government under the guise of lease-lend.
However what goes around comes around, because despite being a war
shattered country we were being bled dry struggling to payback huge war
loans [to you know who].
Apparently to try and earn some desperately-needed foreign currency
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the war we were forced into selling some Rolls Royce jet engines to the
Russians, who promptly copied and fitted them in the Mig 15, used very
successfully [against you know who] in the Korean War.
Sorry boyo, but your kettle has several holes in it and does not carry
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impact when held up to the light of day.
No holes in my kettle 'boyo', plenty of references on goggle if you bother
"On 22 July 1941, the work of Power Jets and Whittle was heading over to
America. There were no royalties for this, under the lend-lease terms."
"The XP-59A was powered by the first American jet engine, the General
Electric I-A, which was centrifugal-flow and based on the W2B design of
"From the end of the Second World War the USSR undertook a vast development
program for modern jet-powered warplanes, and the first classic fighter to
emerge was the swept-wing MiG-15, which flew in December 1947 as the 1-310
with a Rolls-Royce Nene II turbojet. The Nene was copied in the USSR as the
RD-45, and in its improved RD-45F version this was used in the MiG- 15
production fighter, which entered service late in 1948"
Yes, most exciting times to some of us who were around then. And we are well
aware of the various Mig configurations and the manner in which they were
generally encountered and overcome.
Something to consider is that organizations like Pratt and Whitney, North
American, Martin, Lockheed, General Electric, Boeing, Douglas, Northrop,
etal, were not in the position of the half strangled Brits and had no need
to offer tidbits of accomplishments to survive during those years as did the
It may be well to note that none of these companies, etal, felt the need to
share information with the world in general and especially a country that
had no means to utilize it and at times offered high risk of selling or
losing said information to less than friendly groups.
Those years during the 30's and early 40's offered a quagmire of alliances
and pacts which could change at a whim. At no time could it be defined with
any degree of assurance who would be shooting at who. This included all
Europe, the Japs, Russia and to a certain extent England. Not a good time to
be giving away the kings secrets.
As you move out into the world and look around yourself for the first time
you soon realize that the world does not revolve around google searches.
Perhaps google does not know the whole story but only that part which is
popular to the street gawkers. Often good for grammar school reports and
similar issues but nothing to bet your stocks on.
Much of the activities of the time, but behind the scenes and out of the
news, is available but more than likely will be found in deep web type
searches which access databases not listed with nor open by the casual
You may rest assured that Mr. Kelly at Skunk Works did not call up google
and tell them just what really made the Blackbird tick. Oh, yes, and why it
continues to fly, albeit damned expensively.