Discussion:
That story about teaching black males separately from other students..
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bluecalx
2005-03-08 00:57:03 UTC
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4323979.stm

"Black boys may have to be separated from classmates to help improve
school performance, the head of the Commission for Racial Equality has
suggested.

Trevor Phillips also suggested black fathers not living with their
sons should be denied access if they refused to attend parents'
evenings."

And so on.

I just know you people are chomping at the bit to complain about black
people, so let's hear your opinions on this! I look forward to lots
of well- reasoned responses which surely won't have even a trace of
racism or bigotry. Don't let me down, usenet!


ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/3517171.stm
David Platt
2005-03-08 00:44:56 UTC
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ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.

Maybe they were right all along, that seems to be his point,
and since Phillips is black he must know what he's talking about, right?
bluecalx
2005-03-08 01:25:54 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Post by David Platt
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
I did know that.
Post by David Platt
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
I think it's a ill-considered idea. This sort of myopic thinking
might have some short-term benefits (which I imagine is what he's
going for) but the long-term effects of segregating these kids would
be terrible. They already live in a world full of people like you
calling them "niggers" -- they don't need the school system further
promoting the idea that they're somehow inferior to other students.
Post by David Platt
Maybe they were right all along, that seems to be his point,
and since Phillips is black he must know what he's talking about, right?
I'm fairly certain Trevor Phillips wouldn't say that South African
apartheid was a good thing. I'm not quite sure how you came to that
conclusion.
David Platt
2005-03-08 01:12:41 UTC
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ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
I did know that.
Post by David Platt
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
I think it's a ill-considered idea. This sort of myopic thinking
might have some short-term benefits (which I imagine is what he's
going for) but the long-term effects of segregating these kids would
be terrible. They already live in a world full of people like you
calling them "niggers" -- they don't need the school system further
promoting the idea that they're somehow inferior to other students.
They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to segregate
them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean they
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a pathetically
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.

Although I think it will benefit the white students, and even the other
ethnic students.
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Maybe they were right all along, that seems to be his point,
and since Phillips is black he must know what he's talking about, right?
I'm fairly certain Trevor Phillips wouldn't say that South African
apartheid was a good thing. I'm not quite sure how you came to that
conclusion.
WHat he is proposing here, is exactly the same as south african
apartheid, why can't you see that? It's perfectly obvious.
Ian Bailey
2005-03-08 08:28:00 UTC
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Post by David Platt
They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to
segregate
Post by David Platt
them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean they
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a
pathetically
Post by David Platt
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
Disgusting though the concept is, on this subject you're half right.
Black boys aren't doing well in school because its not cool - peer
pressure is massive on these kids not to succeed. He proposes putting
them in their own classes - preferably with a black male teacher - in
an attempt to remove the peer pressure. But as anyone with a brain -
and all the black kids shown on vox pops last night - knows that the
peer pressure will just get worse at them being sent to the "ghetto",
this is a fundamentally stupid idea. And that before you get into
issues of segregationism.
Post by David Platt
WHat he is proposing here, is exactly the same as south african
apartheid, why can't you see that? It's perfectly obvious.
Not true. You don't know much about South Africa do you?

Segregating kids in school is not the same as making them second class
citizens in their own country and legally restricting what they can do.
What you meant to say is that you WANT aparthaid here, just like your
masters in the BNP.

Ian
bluecalx
2005-03-08 12:49:11 UTC
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Post by David Platt
They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to
segregate
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them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean
they
Post by David Platt
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a
pathetically
Post by David Platt
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
He proposes putting
them in their own classes - preferably with a black male teacher - in
an attempt to remove the peer pressure. But as anyone with a brain -
and all the black kids shown on vox pops last night - knows that the
peer pressure will just get worse at them being sent to the "ghetto",
this is a fundamentally stupid idea. And that before you get into
issues of segregationism.
This is very true. If the problem is a lack of appreciation for
education in the black community, I fail to see how making classes
composed entirely of black students is going to help. If you take a
bunch of kids who think school is a waste of time and put them all
together, they're not magically going to start thinking learning is
cool. If anything, this will just end up hurting the black kids who DO
care about school.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:05:14 UTC
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Post by David Platt
They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to
segregate
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them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean
they
Post by David Platt
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a
pathetically
Post by David Platt
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
Disgusting though the concept is, on this subject you're half right.
I'm always right Bailey.
You allude to your and you're ilk's real problem though, when you
explain that certain concepts disgust you. THis fear of certain concepts
is what prevents liberals such as yourself and so many others from
thinking rationally about difficult issues, lack of intellectual
fortitude to contemplate the unpalatable.
Ian Bailey
2005-03-08 20:58:58 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Post by David Platt
They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to
segregate
Post by David Platt
them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean
they
Post by David Platt
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a
pathetically
Post by David Platt
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
Disgusting though the concept is, on this subject you're half right.
I'm always right Bailey.
Of course you are. Which is why you just made an utterly false
comparison between aparthaid and seperate teaching.

Ian
David Platt
2005-03-08 21:06:44 UTC
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They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to
segregate
Post by David Platt
them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean
they
Post by David Platt
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a
pathetically
Post by David Platt
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
Disgusting though the concept is, on this subject you're half
right.
Post by David Platt
I'm always right Bailey.
Of course you are. Which is why you just made an utterly false
comparison between aparthaid and seperate teaching.
Explain how that is 'utterly false'.

Educating children separately, whether mandated by the apartheid south
African government circa 1960, or by the black Mr Trevor Philips head of
the CRE circa 2005, it amounts to the same thing.

That is an indisputable fact, you and many other liberals here are
incapable of admitting.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 23:16:04 UTC
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They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to
segregate
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them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean
they
Post by David Platt
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a
pathetically
Post by David Platt
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
Disgusting though the concept is, on this subject you're half
right.
Post by David Platt
I'm always right Bailey.
Of course you are. Which is why you just made an utterly false
comparison between aparthaid and seperate teaching.
Explain how that is 'utterly false'.
Are these boys going to mixed schools? Yes. Are these boys free to
travel anywhere like the rest of their compatriots? Yes. Are these boys
obliged to carry passbooks? No. Can they sit on the same benches, drink
the same water, participate in the same sports etc as those around them?
Yes.

Now if you can't see the difference my little racist moron then you are
even stupider than you appear to be.
David Platt
2005-03-09 00:20:36 UTC
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They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to
segregate
Post by David Platt
them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean
they
Post by David Platt
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a
pathetically
Post by David Platt
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
Disgusting though the concept is, on this subject you're half
right.
Post by David Platt
I'm always right Bailey.
Of course you are. Which is why you just made an utterly false
comparison between aparthaid and seperate teaching.
Explain how that is 'utterly false'.
Are these boys going to mixed schools? Yes.
Mixed in what sense?
WHat difference does it make if Philips wnts them to attend separate clases.
Post by John of Aix
Are these boys free to
travel anywhere like the rest of their compatriots? Yes. Are these boys
obliged to carry passbooks? No.
National ID cards coming soon.
Post by John of Aix
Can they sit on the same benches, drink
the same water, participate in the same sports etc as those around them?
Yes.
Doewsn't matter, the educational aspect, which si all that is being
discussed, is clearly apartheid. It is as plain as the vacuity of your
intellect.
Post by John of Aix
Now if you can't see the difference my little racist moron then you are
even stupider than you appear to be.
NO there is no difference, you are simply spouting meaningless aspects
of SA apparteid, which ahs nothing to do with this new form of
educational apartheid bneing espoused by the black idiot trevor philips,
but being a pig ignorant oirish mick piss ant you can be excused
you dim wittedness.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 11:31:36 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat of
a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps environmental)
slum.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:11:23 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat of
a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps environmental)
slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing your
wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.

Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant
thick irish cunt.
Leighton Jones
2005-03-08 17:26:36 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor most
whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat of a
racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps environmental)
slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger have
you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few niggers
pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing your wallet
and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant thick
irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Cheers LJ.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:28:34 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor most
whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat of a
racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps environmental)
slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger have
you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few niggers
pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing your wallet
and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant thick
irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
Leighton Jones
2005-03-08 17:40:58 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat of
a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps environmental)
slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing your
wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant
thick irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
So Ok, which ethnic minority to I now belong to?
Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of your narrow
little world?
Cheers LJ.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:37:36 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat of
a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps environmental)
slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing your
wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant
thick irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
So Ok, which ethnic minority to I now belong to?
You're welsh you thick cunt.
You're an endangered species.
Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Post by Leighton Jones
Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of your narrow
little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Leighton Jones
2005-03-08 17:49:07 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat
of a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps
environmental) slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing
your wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant
thick irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
So Ok, which ethnic minority to I now belong to?
You're welsh you thick cunt.
Your power of deduction needs a bit of work, Well I supose 1 out or three
wasn't bad for you!
Post by David Platt
You're an endangered species.
Not in Wales I'm not!
Post by David Platt
Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of your
narrow little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Ah a sheep joke, haven't heard one of those for a while?
Cheers LJ
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:43:57 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat
of a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps
environmental) slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing
your wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant
thick irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
So Ok, which ethnic minority to I now belong to?
You're welsh you thick cunt.
Your power of deduction needs a bit of work, Well I supose 1 out or three
wasn't bad for you!
Not at all you are
1. thick
2. a cunt
3. welsh

in that order.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
You're an endangered species.
Not in Wales I'm not!
You will be.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
That wont take much longer with the rate whites are leaving.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of your
narrow little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Ah a sheep joke, haven't heard one of those for a while?
Get used to it, Baaaaaaa
Leighton Jones
2005-03-08 17:55:08 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant
twat of a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps
environmental) slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing
your wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant
thick irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
So Ok, which ethnic minority to I now belong to?
You're welsh you thick cunt.
Your power of deduction needs a bit of work, Well I supose 1 out or three
wasn't bad for you!
Not at all you are
1. thick
2. a cunt
3. welsh
in that order.
No, no, as I said 1 out of 3, so pick which one it is?
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
You're an endangered species.
Not in Wales I'm not!
You will be.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
That wont take much longer with the rate whites are leaving.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of your
narrow little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Ah a sheep joke, haven't heard one of those for a while?
Get used to it, Baaaaaaa
"Baaaaaaa"!
Oh come on, tell me you can do better than that?
Cheers LJ.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:50:29 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant
twat of a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps
environmental) slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing
your wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant
thick irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
So Ok, which ethnic minority to I now belong to?
You're welsh you thick cunt.
Your power of deduction needs a bit of work, Well I supose 1 out or three
wasn't bad for you!
Not at all you are
1. thick
2. a cunt
3. welsh
in that order.
No, no, as I said 1 out of 3, so pick which one it is?
It's all 3 you thick welsh cunt as I've repeatedly stated.
I love how this is really pissing you off,
you thick welsh cunt!
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Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
You're an endangered species.
Not in Wales I'm not!
You will be.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
That wont take much longer with the rate whites are leaving.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of your
narrow little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Ah a sheep joke, haven't heard one of those for a while?
Get used to it, Baaaaaaa
"Baaaaaaa"!
Oh come on, tell me you can do better than that?
No, Baaaa! It's definitely having the desired effect, Baaaa Baaa!
Leighton Jones
2005-03-08 18:07:54 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either,
nor most whites for that matter because you are just a sad,
ignorant twat of a racist who has never got out of his mental (and
perhaps environmental) slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a
nigger have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and
have a few niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping
you, stealing your wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig
ognorant thick irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
So Ok, which ethnic minority to I now belong to?
You're welsh you thick cunt.
Your power of deduction needs a bit of work, Well I supose 1 out or
three wasn't bad for you!
Not at all you are
1. thick
2. a cunt
3. welsh
in that order.
No, no, as I said 1 out of 3, so pick which one it is?
It's all 3 you thick welsh cunt as I've repeatedly stated.
I love how this is really pissing you off,
you thick welsh cunt!
You seriously think that you are getting to be with that crap?
I've worked all over the place and been called a lot worse than that!
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You're an endangered species.
Not in Wales I'm not!
You will be.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
That wont take much longer with the rate whites are leaving.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of your
narrow little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Ah a sheep joke, haven't heard one of those for a while?
Get used to it, Baaaaaaa
"Baaaaaaa"!
Oh come on, tell me you can do better than that?
No, Baaaa! It's definitely having the desired effect, Baaaa Baaa!
Outstanding humour, a real comedy writer!
Have you written any-thing I might have seen?
Cheers LJ.
john browne
2005-03-08 18:16:48 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either,
nor most whites for that matter because you are just a sad,
ignorant twat of a racist who has never got out of his mental
(and perhaps environmental) slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a
nigger have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and
have a few niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping
you, stealing your wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig
ognorant thick irish cunt.
*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
So Ok, which ethnic minority to I now belong to?
You're welsh you thick cunt.
Your power of deduction needs a bit of work, Well I supose 1 out or
three wasn't bad for you!
Not at all you are
1. thick
2. a cunt
3. welsh
in that order.
No, no, as I said 1 out of 3, so pick which one it is?
It's all 3 you thick welsh cunt as I've repeatedly stated.
I love how this is really pissing you off,
you thick welsh cunt!
You seriously think that you are getting to be(ME) with that crap?
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*pig ognorant * ?
If it wasn't tragic it would be funny!
Never a truer word and all that crap:-)))
I've worked all over the place and been called a lot worse than that!
Horse shit is all over the place:-))
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You're an endangered species.
Not in Wales I'm not!
You will be.
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Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
That wont take much longer with the rate whites are leaving.
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Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of your
narrow little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Ah a sheep joke, haven't heard one of those for a while?
Get used to it, Baaaaaaa
"Baaaaaaa"!
Oh come on, tell me you can do better than that?
No, Baaaa! It's definitely having the desired effect, Baaaa Baaa!
Outstanding humour, a real comedy writer!
Have you written any-thing I might have seen?
Almost half of this thread, you apparently like it to judge from your
ripostes:-))
John of Aix
2005-03-08 21:14:30 UTC
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Outstanding humour, a real comedy writer!
Have you written any-thing I might have seen?
I think that the great epic "Kilroy was here" so well known from public
toilets was his seminal work (if you'll excuse the potential pun).
bluecalx
2005-03-08 18:32:24 UTC
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Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
That wont take much longer with the rate whites are leaving.
The UK population is 90+ percent white. I don't think there's any
great shortage of white people in the near future.
David Platt
2005-03-08 19:01:47 UTC
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Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
That wont take much longer with the rate whites are leaving.
The UK population is 90+ percent white. I don't think there's any
great shortage of white people in the near future.
I don't think so.
There are 15 million whites now livign overseas.
So taking the 1950s census as a benchmark when there were
52 million citizens, 100% white, that leaves ony some
37 million whites, yet we now have a population of 60 million.

If you take the annual arrival of 500,000 immigrants, and who knows how
many illegal ones,
then you add to that, all the children and grand children of all the
immigrants that have arrived since th 1950s,
you get a much clearer picture of the true number of blacks asians and
other ethnic minorities not living in britain, and it's a far greater
number than 10%, probably closer to 35%.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:47:42 UTC
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The UK population is 90+ percent white. I don't think there's any
great shortage of white people in the near future.
I don't think so.
There are 15 million whites now livign overseas.
Where are the figures for this? As I pointed out the other day, no tabs
are kept on British people leaving or coming back to England so where
exactly do you get this figure from?
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So taking the 1950s census as a benchmark when there were
52 million citizens, 100% white, that leaves ony some
37 million whites, yet we now have a population of 60 million.
No it doesn't until you produce figures that back up what you say, and
by the way, the population of the Britain is a little over 60 million.
Post by David Platt
If you take the annual arrival of 500,000 immigrants, and who knows
how many illegal ones,
Where are the figures for these 500,000 you mention so often? The
figures I've seen speak of half that number so please supply a
reasonable source for yours, otherwise fuck off with your lies.
Post by David Platt
then you add to that, all the children and grand children of all the
immigrants that have arrived since th 1950s,
you get a much clearer picture of the true number of blacks asians and
other ethnic minorities not living in britain, and it's a far greater
number than 10%, probably closer to 35%.
Bwahahahaha. GIVE US THE FUCKING PROOF YOU DAFT CUNT. Your pathetic
racist estimations just don't cut the mustard little boy.

And who gives a shit anyway? The whole of England is made of immigrants,
hadn't you noticed, didn't you do any history at school (or haven't you
got that far yet?). Romans, Vikings, Frisians, French etc. There isn't
an indigenous Englisman left old fellow, they all got pushed out to
dark foreign parts like Ireland, Wales and Scotland. Even your pathetic
monarchy is foreign, bwahahahahaha. I love it the way little Englanders
like you make a load of noise and don't even know their own history.
Carry on, don't mind me and I'll carry on laughing my head off at your
sublime ignorance.
David Platt
2005-03-09 00:24:33 UTC
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The UK population is 90+ percent white. I don't think there's any
great shortage of white people in the near future.
I don't think so.
There are 15 million whites now livign overseas.
Where are the figures for this? As I pointed out the other day, no tabs
are kept on British people leaving or coming back to England so where
exactly do you get this figure from?
These figures have been posted several times in the past week on
uk.p.misc, do a quick google and you will find the links to official
stats that back this up.
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Post by David Platt
So taking the 1950s census as a benchmark when there were
52 million citizens, 100% white, that leaves ony some
37 million whites, yet we now have a population of 60 million.
No it doesn't until you produce figures that back up what you say, and
by the way, the population of the Britain is a little over 60 million.
I have done as have many others.

I don't have to keep reposting them, it's your responsibility to read
the newsgroups.
go and do that you moron.
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If you take the annual arrival of 500,000 immigrants, and who knows
how many illegal ones,
Where are the figures for these 500,000 you mention so often? The
figures I've seen speak of half that number so please supply a
reasonable source for yours, otherwise fuck off with your lies.
THese figures are available from the home office web site.
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then you add to that, all the children and grand children of all the
immigrants that have arrived since th 1950s,
you get a much clearer picture of the true number of blacks asians and
other ethnic minorities not living in britain, and it's a far greater
number than 10%, probably closer to 35%.
Bwahahahaha. GIVE US THE FUCKING PROOF YOU DAFT CUNT. Your pathetic
racist estimations just don't cut the mustard little boy.
YOu fucking thick as dog shit irrish mick,
I've posted these figures time and again.
Maybe you should go to one of these CRE remedial cvlasses for niggers
and learn how to read to the level of a five year old, and maybe you can
actually follow these discussions, as it is, you are like a little
chimpanzee pretending to have a fucking clue what is going on in the
world around you.
Post by John of Aix
And who gives a shit anyway? The whole of England is made of immigrants,
hadn't you noticed, didn't you do any history at school (or haven't you
got that far yet?). Romans, Vikings, Frisians, French etc. There isn't
an indigenous Englisman left old fellow, they all got pushed out to
dark foreign parts like Ireland, Wales and Scotland. Even your pathetic
monarchy is foreign, bwahahahahaha. I love it the way little Englanders
like you make a load of noise and don't even know their own history.
Carry on, don't mind me and I'll carry on laughing my head off at your
sublime ignorance.
Fucking bollocks you lying irish cunt.
England should take every last one of you michks and boot you across the
irish sea, you fuycking ignorant bastards.
bluecalx
2005-03-08 23:45:52 UTC
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Wait till the pakis take you lot over.
Well they will have had to finnish with you lot first!
That wont take much longer with the rate whites are leaving.
The UK population is 90+ percent white. I don't think there's any
great shortage of white people in the near future.
I don't think so.
There are 15 million whites now livign overseas.
So taking the 1950s census as a benchmark when there were
52 million citizens, 100% white, that leaves ony some
37 million whites, yet we now have a population of 60 million.
If you take the annual arrival of 500,000 immigrants, and who knows how
many illegal ones,
then you add to that, all the children and grand children of all the
immigrants that have arrived since th 1950s,
As I said before, I was using figures from the 2001 census, not from
the 1950's. Please read more carefully in the future.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 21:12:42 UTC
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Get used to it, Baaaaaaa
No don't tell me, let me guess. You're 14? Or maybe 15 but mentally
retarded.
David Platt
2005-03-09 00:25:38 UTC
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Get used to it, Baaaaaaa
No don't tell me, let me guess. You're 14? Or maybe 15 but mentally
retarded.
I have shat turds that are more intelligent than your entire family tree
stretching back to the stone age, which for you is only 2 generations back.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 21:11:03 UTC
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Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of
your narrow little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Intelligent and literate people give a fuck so you're obviously
excluded. I think you'll find that Welsh is a far older language than
English so don't try and play the 'superior being' because you aren't
and never will be.
David Platt
2005-03-09 00:26:04 UTC
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Oh and it's spelt "Iechyd Da", do you know any-thing out-side of
your narrow little world?
Who gives a fuck you stupid sheep shagger.
Intelligent and literate people give a fuck so you're obviously
excluded.
What would you know of intelligence you fucking stupid mick.
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2005-03-08 22:38:26 UTC
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Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
"Iechyd da" little boy, do try and get yourself a bit of an education.
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Oh look another ethnic minority, welsh toss pot.
Yacky daa you scum.
"Iechyd da" little boy, do try and get yourself a bit of an education.
Feck off now there's a good little leprechaun.

Don't you have some homosexual irish dancing to do or something.

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2005-03-08 17:47:01 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat of
a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps environmental)
slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing your
wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Do you get all of your information about minorities from some sort of
stereotype catalog? And when you imagine this stuff, are the black
people rapping and waving spears while they rape and plunder? Just
curious!
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:47:01 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant twat of
a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps environmental)
slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you. I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing your
wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Do you get all of your information about minorities from some sort of
stereotype catalog? And when you imagine this stuff, are the black
people rapping and waving spears while they rape and plunder? Just
curious!
The thing about stereotpes is, that they have developed due to mutually
acknowleged experiencial truth.

Niggers such as chris rock for example use stereotypes all the time in
their comedy acts to ridicule other ethnic minorities.

But when niggers do it, it's ok because after all you liberal morons
can't dare criticise them.

There's a case today where a paki commedian is using music from
deliverance every time a whit person is interviewed on his show.
HOw about that for racial sterotyping, but that's OK when a paki does
it, isnt that so Mr Nigger foreign cunt.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:42:58 UTC
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Niggers such as chris rock for example use stereotypes all the time in
their comedy acts to ridicule other ethnic minorities.
But when niggers do it, it's ok because after all you liberal morons
can't dare criticise them.
So you've never heard an Irish/Scottish/Jewish/Chinese joke then?

Are you for real because I find it hard to believe that someone such as
you can be at large in the community and not in some secure mental
institution. They really should invest more in the Health Service.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:37:53 UTC
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Yes, I can't stand niggers.
I'm sure that most blacks would not be able to stand you either, nor
most whites for that matter because you are just a sad, ignorant
twat of a racist who has never got out of his mental (and perhaps
environmental) slum.
Oh do shut up you oafish oirish fairy, you haven't even seen a nigger
have you.
A) I am not Irish. B) Among my friends there are Burkinabés, Malians,
Ivoirians, Guineans, plenty of North Africans (though they aren't
black), Nigerians, Togolese and I'm not sure what else. Now let me ask
you, have you ever met a black? Have you ever set foot outside your
swamp (Torremolinos doesn't count)? I doubt it judging by the ignorance
you show with every post, which hardly indicates an urbane person.
Post by David Platt
I sincerely hope you visit London some time and have a few
niggers pointing a 9mm in your face of happy slapping you, stealing
your wallet and cell phone, and raping your wife.
Why, don't whites do that sort of thing then?
Post by David Platt
Really you deserve to meet the niggers most of all, you pig ognorant
thick irish cunt.
I meet plenty of blacks thanks and have a very happy time with them
because they are very happy people not sad and bitter cunts like
yourself. I meet less Irish because I've only ever set foot in Ireland
once. Of course I don't expect you have ever even left your slum have
you, you poor deranged little twat? No experience of the world, no
knowledge of other peoples and about as much sense as my dog. No, that's
too hard on my dog. About as much sense as a lump of coal. You really
are pathetic. Still I expect you're good with a broom, that's something
already.

Isn't it time you went and got yourself a takeaway and some more beer so
that you can settle comfortably in front of your TV and watch mindless
bilge. I expect even you are capable of turning it on and off, chimps
manage, so why shouldn't you?

Oh and by the way, ask the doctor for stronger pills next time, the
current ones aren't working.
bluecalx
2005-03-08 12:09:10 UTC
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I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
Thanks for letting us know.
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Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
I did know that.
Post by David Platt
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
I already told you why I thought he said that. And it's not realy
like South African apartheid no matter how many times you say it is.
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I think it's a ill-considered idea. This sort of myopic thinking
might have some short-term benefits (which I imagine is what he's
going for) but the long-term effects of segregating these kids would
be terrible. They already live in a world full of people like you
calling them "niggers" -- they don't need the school system further
promoting the idea that they're somehow inferior to other students.
They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to segregate
them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean they
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a pathetically
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
I'm curious -- do you think ALL black people are "niggers" or just the
ones who use the word "nigga" to refer to one another?
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Post by bluecalx
I'm fairly certain Trevor Phillips wouldn't say that South African
apartheid was a good thing. I'm not quite sure how you came to that
conclusion.
WHat he is proposing here, is exactly the same as south african
apartheid, why can't you see that? It's perfectly obvious.
Again, it's not exactly the same as apartheid. Come to think of it,
it's not even remotely similar. This is a proposal to separate black
males during school in the interest of improving their educations.
While I think this is a terrible idea, it's not even CLOSE to South
Africa's former policy of apartheid.

Apartheid imposed the white minority's power on the black majority,
making blacks second-class citizens. They were denied the opportunity
to participate in national government or vote in any meaningful
elections. Their movements within South Africa were restricted to
"black" areas unless they had a pass permitting them to be in a
"white" area. If a black person without the appropriate pass was
found in the wrong area, he could be arrested and possibly "deported"
(never mind the fact that he was born in South Africa). Buses and
trains were segretated. There were "white" beaches and "black"
beaches. Blacks received much, much harsher penalties than whites for
identical crimes. Even sex between the races was forbidden.

As I read through what I just typed, that must sound like some sort of
dream world to you, David, you great big racist!
bluecalx
2005-03-08 15:18:02 UTC
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Post by David Platt
WHat he is proposing here, is exactly the same as south african
apartheid, why can't you see that? It's perfectly obvious.
Again, it's not exactly the same as apartheid. Come to think of it,
it's not even remotely similar. This is a proposal to separate black
males during school in the interest of improving their educations.
While I think this is a terrible idea, it's not even CLOSE to South
Africa's former policy of apartheid.
What TP is suggesting is certainly NOT that, but it could be seen as a step
in that general direction.
Possibly. And having special classes for the mentally retarded could
be seen as a step in the direction of training them to live and work
in underground cities as sub-human slave-labour. But it's probably
not going to happen. The "slippery slope" argument must be used with
care, my friend.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:23:56 UTC
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I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
Thanks for letting us know.
And you foreign interloping liberal bastards, what the fuck are you
doing in britain,
have you already fucked up your own country and are now bent on doing
the same here? Let me guess, you're canadian or american, or some
mongrel type.
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Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
I did know that.
Post by David Platt
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
I already told you why I thought he said that. And it's not realy
like South African apartheid no matter how many times you say it is.
It clearly is the same, explain why you think it's different?
I bet you can't.
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Post by bluecalx
I think it's a ill-considered idea. This sort of myopic thinking
might have some short-term benefits (which I imagine is what he's
going for) but the long-term effects of segregating these kids would
be terrible. They already live in a world full of people like you
calling them "niggers" -- they don't need the school system further
promoting the idea that they're somehow inferior to other students.
They call themselves niggers, they *ARE* niggers, he wants to segregate
them so he can present them with a simple curriculum that will mean they
magically appear to succeed, while actually just taking a pathetically
simple curriculum compared to other pupils. It's a scam.
I'm curious -- do you think ALL black people are "niggers" or just the
ones who use the word "nigga" to refer to one another?
THey are all niggers. The ones who refer to each other as such are the
honest ones.
What sort are you?
DOn't worry we have learned to see lying nigger bullshitters here,
you are a nigger and I know you are, so stop lying through your teeth.
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Post by bluecalx
I'm fairly certain Trevor Phillips wouldn't say that South African
apartheid was a good thing. I'm not quite sure how you came to that
conclusion.
WHat he is proposing here, is exactly the same as south african
apartheid, why can't you see that? It's perfectly obvious.
Again, it's not exactly the same as apartheid. Come to think of it,
it's not even remotely similar. This is a proposal to separate black
males during school in the interest of improving their educations.
While I think this is a terrible idea, it's not even CLOSE to South
Africa's former policy of apartheid.
HOw is that different exactly?
It is in fact precisely the same thing.
Soon to be followed by more separateness for blacks recommended by the
black Mr Philips.
Of course you can't admit that it's apartheid, because your world view
then collapses and you are shown to be a complete idiot.
Well too late! We can already see you for what you are you moron.
Post by bluecalx
Apartheid imposed the white minority's power on the black majority,
making blacks second-class citizens. They were denied the opportunity
to participate in national government or vote in any meaningful
elections.
And now we have had decades of pretending that they are the same as
whites, and Philips actions proves that they are not the same, they are
inferior and cannot perform up to the standards of whites, and must now
undergo a pretend education to achieve pretend success.
It's a complete scam, but the means by which it is being achieved is as
much apartheid as south african apartheid ever was.
Only this time administrated by blacks. That is the plain fact of the
matter, deal with it, you cretin.
Post by bluecalx
Their movements within South Africa were restricted to
"black" areas unless they had a pass permitting them to be in a
"white" area.
THey have self segregated in the UK, *SELF* segregated, to areas like
brixton tottenham and hackney.
They arrived en mass over the past 40 years into all white communities,
began raping and mugging the locals, who then all moved out through fear
and intimidation.
They are not fit to live among any but their own, and when they do, they
commit crimes against the native white populations.
THis is the reason for the white flight in the US in the 60s.
Blacks prey on whites they always have and they always will.
That's why they are better off apart, and this is the conclusion Trevor
Philips is arriving at.
Post by bluecalx
If a black person without the appropriate pass was
found in the wrong area, he could be arrested and possibly "deported"
(never mind the fact that he was born in South Africa). Buses and
trains were segretated. There were "white" beaches and "black"
beaches. Blacks received much, much harsher penalties than whites for
identical crimes. Even sex between the races was forbidden.
A very sensible policy, and eventually one that will be re-instituted,
wherever niggers are to be found. Probably even demanded by themselves.
As the current regime in zimbabwe is a perfect example.

'Mugabe has ruined his agricultural economy by stealing land from white
farmers, who were producing 90% of the annual crops, and the lazy
niggers who are on their land now don't even want to do a days work, and
their crop production has fallen by 90%.

Serves them right, and proves that they want to live segregated.
Post by bluecalx
As I read through what I just typed, that must sound like some sort of
dream world to you, David, you great big racist!
I am a realist, it is blacks who are the racists, it is Trevor Philips
who has suggested racial segregation, yet despite this you claim I am a
racist, for simply pointing the actions out of this black racist.
You really haven't got a clue have you.
bluecalx
2005-03-08 18:30:10 UTC
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And you foreign interloping liberal bastards, what the fuck are you
doing in britain,
have you already fucked up your own country and are now bent on doing
the same here? Let me guess, you're canadian or american, or some
mongrel type.
Good guess. I'm American. And I've come to the UK to fuck up your
country by finishing my second masters degree and working as a
productive member of society. Please accept my apologies in advance!
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
I already told you why I thought he said that. And it's not realy
like South African apartheid no matter how many times you say it is.
It clearly is the same, explain why you think it's different?
I bet you can't.
I believe I did explain that in some detail. Please read before
responding.
Post by David Platt
THey are all niggers. The ones who refer to each other as such are the
honest ones.
What sort are you?
DOn't worry we have learned to see lying nigger bullshitters here,
you are a nigger and I know you are, so stop lying through your teeth.
I'm fairly certain that I'm white.

Yes, I just looked and my whiteness has been confirmed. I even have
blue eyes!
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
While I think this is a terrible idea, it's not even CLOSE to South
Africa's former policy of apartheid.
HOw is that different exactly?
It is in fact precisely the same thing.
Soon to be followed by more separateness for blacks recommended by the
black Mr Philips.
Of course you can't admit that it's apartheid, because your world view
then collapses and you are shown to be a complete idiot.
Well too late! We can already see you for what you are you moron.
Again, I already explained how it's different. I assume you just
overlooked it in your rush to call me a "nigger".
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Apartheid imposed the white minority's power on the black majority,
making blacks second-class citizens. They were denied the opportunity
to participate in national government or vote in any meaningful
elections.
And now we have had decades of pretending that they are the same as
whites, and Philips actions proves that they are not the same, they are
inferior and cannot perform up to the standards of whites, and must now
undergo a pretend education to achieve pretend success.
Did you miss the part in my original post where I pointed out that
black African females actually do better than white British males?
Because apparently they CAN perform up to and BEYOND the standards of
whites.
Post by David Platt
Blacks prey on whites they always have and they always will.
Yeah, it sure did suck back in the 1700's and 1800's when those black
slaves in the US were preying on their white masters! Those whites
really had it rough..
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
As I read through what I just typed, that must sound like some sort of
dream world to you, David, you great big racist!
I am a realist, it is blacks who are the racists, it is Trevor Philips
who has suggested racial segregation, yet despite this you claim I am a
racist, for simply pointing the actions out of this black racist.
Well, no, actually. I claim that you're a racist because you
repeatedly refer to black people as "niggers", you think that
minorities (especially blacks) are genetically inferior and
genetically prone to violent behaviour. I'm pretty sure that's the
textbook definition of "racism".
David Platt
2005-03-08 19:09:51 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
And you foreign interloping liberal bastards, what the fuck are you
doing in britain,
have you already fucked up your own country and are now bent on doing
the same here? Let me guess, you're canadian or american, or some
mongrel type.
Good guess. I'm American. And I've come to the UK to fuck up your
country by finishing my second masters degree and working as a
productive member of society. Please accept my apologies in advance!
So what about your ethnicity?
I got the american part gith, I bet I got the ethnic part right as well,
that's why you seem to feel so at home round tottenham, and are
criticising the few remaining local whites.

Tottenham, not too many years ago, was all white.
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
I already told you why I thought he said that. And it's not realy
like South African apartheid no matter how many times you say it is.
It clearly is the same, explain why you think it's different?
I bet you can't.
I believe I did explain that in some detail. Please read before
responding.
NO you didn't. YOu simplu got it all wrong.
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
THey are all niggers. The ones who refer to each other as such are the
honest ones.
What sort are you?
DOn't worry we have learned to see lying nigger bullshitters here,
you are a nigger and I know you are, so stop lying through your teeth.
I'm fairly certain that I'm white.
Being america that it probably unlikely, since you have been
intermarrying with all sorts of ethnic minorities for 200 years.
Post by bluecalx
Yes, I just looked and my whiteness has been confirmed. I even have
blue eyes!
So do the berbers.
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
While I think this is a terrible idea, it's not even CLOSE to South
Africa's former policy of apartheid.
HOw is that different exactly?
It is in fact precisely the same thing.
Soon to be followed by more separateness for blacks recommended by the
black Mr Philips.
Of course you can't admit that it's apartheid, because your world view
then collapses and you are shown to be a complete idiot.
Well too late! We can already see you for what you are you moron.
Again, I already explained how it's different. I assume you just
overlooked it in your rush to call me a "nigger".
YOu didn't explain it, I refuted it, you're simply wrong.
And you are a nigger, I'll bet money on it.
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Apartheid imposed the white minority's power on the black majority,
making blacks second-class citizens. They were denied the opportunity
to participate in national government or vote in any meaningful
elections.
And now we have had decades of pretending that they are the same as
whites, and Philips actions proves that they are not the same, they are
inferior and cannot perform up to the standards of whites, and must now
undergo a pretend education to achieve pretend success.
Did you miss the part in my original post where I pointed out that
black African females actually do better than white British males?
Not true.
Simply fraudulent statistics.

Lets see a link to support your claims.
Post by bluecalx
Because apparently they CAN perform up to and BEYOND the standards of
whites.
Not true, they always underperform whites,
in america they even get to college with lower grade point averages due
to 'affirmative action', isn't that so. A pure scam.

This is the sort of bogus statistics your spuouting.
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Blacks prey on whites they always have and they always will.
Yeah, it sure did suck back in the 1700's and 1800's when those black
slaves in the US were preying on their white masters! Those whites
really had it rough..
What does that have to do with the UK in the 21st century?
PLease explain what you're getting at.

You'er attempting to justify criminal behavior by blacks against whites
in the UK, because of the actions of american whites 200 years ago.

That is illogical bullshit.
But then you are an american so we must make allowances for general
levels of crass stupidity.
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
As I read through what I just typed, that must sound like some sort of
dream world to you, David, you great big racist!
I am a realist, it is blacks who are the racists, it is Trevor Philips
who has suggested racial segregation, yet despite this you claim I am a
racist, for simply pointing the actions out of this black racist.
Well, no, actually. I claim that you're a racist because you
repeatedly refer to black people as "niggers", you think that
minorities (especially blacks) are genetically inferior and
genetically prone to violent behaviour. I'm pretty sure that's the
textbook definition of "racism".
Black people *ARE* niggers.
Me calling them such does not make me a racist at all.
Them attacking robbing and raping whites does make them racists.

YOu simply have not got the ability to tell reality from liberal PC
propaganda. No doubt you are failiong your studies miserably.
Let's hear you lie about that now as well shall we.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:41:36 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Tottenham, not too many years ago, was all white.
And all English? No it never was so dream on fascist. And don't try and
tell me the contrary, I went to school in Tottenham, I KNOW what I'm
talking about. Britain has always been a nation of immigrants and that
is a good thing. What is so great about being 'white'? Seen any blacks
start world wars have you? Seen any blacks colonising the world have
you? Seen any blacks institutionalising slavery have you? Tell me
fascist cunt, what is so great about being 'white'?
bluecalx
2005-03-09 00:08:32 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Good guess. I'm American. And I've come to the UK to fuck up your
country by finishing my second masters degree and working as a
productive member of society. Please accept my apologies in advance!
So what about your ethnicity?
I got the american part gith, I bet I got the ethnic part right as well,
that's why you seem to feel so at home round tottenham, and are
criticising the few remaining local whites.
On my mother's side, my grandmother was Lithuanian and my grandfather
was Polish. I believe my father's side of the family was of French
descent. Please enlighten me about the shortcomings of those groups,
as I'm sure you have a list you've angrily scribbled down in a
notebook somewhere.
Post by David Platt
Tottenham, not too many years ago, was all white.
Your point?
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
I'm fairly certain that I'm white.
Being america that it probably unlikely, since you have been
intermarrying with all sorts of ethnic minorities for 200 years.
That's true. I think that's why Americans, on the whole, don't look
as inbred as white Brits. And why our teeth are generally so good.
If you're looking for weak genetic stock, I suggest looking close to
home, my friend.
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Again, I already explained how it's different. I assume you just
overlooked it in your rush to call me a "nigger".
YOu didn't explain it, I refuted it, you're simply wrong.
And you are a nigger, I'll bet money on it.
Is everyone in this thread who disagrees with you a "nigger" in your
estimation? Or have I done something especially "nigger"-like?
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Did you miss the part in my original post where I pointed out that
black African females actually do better than white British males?
Because apparently they CAN perform up to and BEYOND the standards of
whites.
Not true.
Simply fraudulent statistics.
Lets see a link to support your claims.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/3517171.stm

Enjoy!
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Blacks prey on whites they always have and they always will.
Yeah, it sure did suck back in the 1700's and 1800's when those black
slaves in the US were preying on their white masters! Those whites
really had it rough..
What does that have to do with the UK in the 21st century?
PLease explain what you're getting at.
You'er attempting to justify criminal behavior by blacks against whites
in the UK, because of the actions of american whites 200 years ago.
No, actually. By citing slavery in the US, I was pointing out that
you were wildly wrong when you said "blacks prey on whites they always
have and they always will". Unless you think that black slaves were
somehow preying on their white masters, which you probably do because
you're stupid.
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Well, no, actually. I claim that you're a racist because you
repeatedly refer to black people as "niggers", you think that
minorities (especially blacks) are genetically inferior and
genetically prone to violent behaviour. I'm pretty sure that's the
textbook definition of "racism".
Black people *ARE* niggers.
Me calling them such does not make me a racist at all.
Them attacking robbing and raping whites does make them racists.
Again, it does make you racist. And even if your use of the word
"nigger" didn't make you racist (which it does), your repeated
assertions that blacks are genetically inferior and prone to violence
certainly does.

According to dictionary.com, racism is..

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or
ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Please explain how you do not fit that definition in every respect.
Post by David Platt
YOu simply have not got the ability to tell reality from liberal PC
propaganda. No doubt you are failiong your studies miserably.
Let's hear you lie about that now as well shall we.
Since you asked, I graduated magna cum laude from my undergraduate
degree and I received a merit with my masters degree. How about you,
Mr. Smarty-Pants?
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:49:48 UTC
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Post by David Platt
And you foreign interloping liberal bastards, what the fuck are you
doing in britain,
Trying to educate ignorant cunts like yourself before they ruin Britain
completely. I was born there sunshine, my family goes back to the 17th
century at least and I bet I am at least 20 years older than you so can
speak far more about being British than you can, so don't come out with
your crap about "I'm British so what I say goes". You are fuck all, you
did not make Britain and I doubt if you contribute anything to it other
than taxes (if that) so just shut your stupid mouth because what makes
and made Britain is the complete antithesis of everything you stand for.

Have you ever looked up the etymology of your name. Try it sometime,
fucking 'foreigner'
Post by David Platt
have you already fucked up your own country and are now bent on doing
the same here? Let me guess, you're canadian or american, or some
mongrel type.
Mongrel? Bwahahahahahaha. An English person calling the rest of the
world mongrels, bwahahahahahahaha. Get yourself to the library and learn
a little history of your country you ignorant twat.
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
I did know that.
Post by David Platt
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
I already told you why I thought he said that. And it's not realy
like South African apartheid no matter how many times you say it is.
It clearly is the same, explain why you think it's different?
I bet you can't.
He just did but given your IQ of 70 it is hardly surprising that you
didn't understand.
Post by David Platt
THey are all niggers. The ones who refer to each other as such are the
honest ones.
What sort are you?
DOn't worry we have learned to see lying nigger bullshitters here,
you are a nigger and I know you are, so stop lying through your teeth.
I think I'd rather be a 'nigger' who has a culture than a fat, couch
potato, beer swilling English hooligan, a mongrel, such as you seem to
be. You really are pathetic. No, worse than that, you are scum unworthy
even to clean out the shit from a drain. Do you think that millions
sacrificed themselves in WWII so that ignorant aresholes like you could
spout their racist bollocks? No they gave there lives for the exact
opposite reasons, to stop fascists imposing such veiws on the world. So
fuck off traitor.
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Again, it's not exactly the same as apartheid. Come to think of it,
it's not even remotely similar. This is a proposal to separate black
males during school in the interest of improving their educations.
While I think this is a terrible idea, it's not even CLOSE to South
Africa's former policy of apartheid.
HOw is that different exactly?
You've been told already and there are plenty of links on the Net so
work it out for yourself. Ask your remedial teacher to give you a hand
if you have difficulty with the big words.
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Their movements within South Africa were restricted to
"black" areas unless they had a pass permitting them to be in a
"white" area.
THey have self segregated in the UK, *SELF* segregated, to areas like
brixton tottenham and hackney.
Not true and I defy you to prove the contrary. As I say, I have been
British for, no doubt, a far longer period than you. I knew Britain
before there was any amount of immigration from our ex-colonies, I know
exactly what happened and why, so don't give me any of your bullshit
little boy because I know from experience and observation , you only
know from your fascist BNP et al propaganda.
Post by David Platt
They arrived en mass over the past 40 years into all white
communities, began raping and mugging the locals, who then all moved
out through fear and intimidation.
Yes dear.
Post by David Platt
They are not fit to live among any but their own, and when they do,
they commit crimes against the native white populations.
But you have told us that 35% of the current British population are
immigrants. How come then than all 35% aren't criminals? I want an
answer.
Post by David Platt
THis is the reason for the white flight in the US in the 60s.
Bwahahahahaha. There has been very little 'white flight' to the USA
because of the diffiiculty of emigrating to that country. Most of the
British who left Britain in those days either went to Australia or New
Zeraland and a few to Canada. But then you know fuck all about fuck all
so I'm not surpised that you come out with such balderdash. You see
sonny, I KNOW what happened, I was alive during that period, you don't
because you were not, so shut the fuck up because you don't know what
the hell you are talking about..
Post by David Platt
Blacks prey on whites they always have and they always will.
Seen many countries colonised by blacks have you? Seen many countries
colonised by whites? I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.
Post by David Platt
That's why they are better off apart, and this is the conclusion
Trevor Philips is arriving at.
No it isn't so don't dream fascist cunt. Your white superiority bilge
has no place in the 21st century.
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
If a black person without the appropriate pass was
found in the wrong area, he could be arrested and possibly "deported"
(never mind the fact that he was born in South Africa). Buses and
trains were segretated. There were "white" beaches and "black"
beaches. Blacks received much, much harsher penalties than whites
for identical crimes. Even sex between the races was forbidden.
A very sensible policy, and eventually one that will be re-instituted,
wherever niggers are to be found. Probably even demanded by
themselves. As the current regime in zimbabwe is a perfect example.
'Mugabe has ruined his agricultural economy by stealing land from
white farmers, who were producing 90% of the annual crops, and the
lazy niggers who are on their land now don't even want to do a days
work, and their crop production has fallen by 90%.
Link please.
Post by David Platt
Serves them right, and proves that they want to live segregated.
Grow up little boy.
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
As I read through what I just typed, that must sound like some sort
of dream world to you, David, you great big racist!
I am a realist
No you aren't, you are a racist of the worst type, so don't try and kid
yourself and don't even think about kidding others, your every word
betrays you as a fascist and a racist.
Post by David Platt
it is blacks who are the racists, it is Trevor Philips
who has suggested racial segregation, yet despite this you claim I am
a racist, for simply pointing the actions out of this black racist.
You really haven't got a clue have you.
Trevor Phillips has not suggested racial segregation. Sorry sonny,
that's the way it is and your racist ranting won't change that.

You are scum, you bring shame to Britian with every word you utter. Get
out of MY country, we don't want people like you in Britain.
Leighton Jones
2005-03-08 14:32:05 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
Ok Firstly define what you think a "Nigger" is?
And then tell us why you can't stand them!
Cheers LJ.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:31:06 UTC
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Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
Ok Firstly define what you think a "Nigger" is?
You've never even seen one have you, as I have said many times, you live
in an isolated white bubble community,.

I can't stand niggers because they have ruined my community and taken it
over, they are criminals and rapists.

Unlike you, I have seen what has been going on in Britain over the last
30 years, while you have been wanking yourself off up in the land
nervous sheep.
Leighton Jones
2005-03-08 17:52:29 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
Ok Firstly define what you think a "Nigger" is?
You've never even seen one have you, as I have said many times, you live
in an isolated white bubble community,.
I think I must have seen what you would call a "niger"!
What do you class as a "nigger"?
Post by David Platt
I can't stand niggers because they have ruined my community and taken it
over, they are criminals and rapists.
What, all of them!
Post by David Platt
Unlike you, I have seen what has been going on in Britain over the last 30
years, while you have been wanking yourself off up in the land nervous
sheep.
You seem to have a thing about Sheep and masturbation!
Cheers LJ.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:53:15 UTC
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Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
Ok Firstly define what you think a "Nigger" is?
You've never even seen one have you, as I have said many times, you live
in an isolated white bubble community,.
I think I must have seen what you would call a "niger"!
NIger is a place you moron, and nigger is a coloquilaism that has come
to cover all blacks but derives from the allusion that many black came
from Niger and Nigeria.
Post by Leighton Jones
What do you class as a "nigger"?
Black are niggers, one day I'm sure yu'll finally get to meet one.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
I can't stand niggers because they have ruined my community and taken it
over, they are criminals and rapists.
What, all of them!
All of them yes.
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Unlike you, I have seen what has been going on in Britain over the last 30
years, while you have been wanking yourself off up in the land nervous
sheep.
You seem to have a thing about Sheep and masturbation!
I'm aware that this is your number one pass time up in them thar hills
and valleys.
Leighton Jones
2005-03-08 18:13:36 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Yes, I can't stand niggers.
Ok Firstly define what you think a "Nigger" is?
You've never even seen one have you, as I have said many times, you live
in an isolated white bubble community,.
I think I must have seen what you would call a "niger"!
NIger is a place you moron,
Whoops!
Post by David Platt
and nigger is a coloquilaism that has come to cover all blacks but derives
from the allusion that many black came from Niger and Nigeria.
Ah Nigeria, Been there!
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
What do you class as a "nigger"?
Black are niggers, one day I'm sure yu'll finally get to meet one.
Erm I've been to Nigeria, so by your defenition above I must have met at
least one!
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
I can't stand niggers because they have ruined my community and taken it
over, they are criminals and rapists.
What, all of them!
All of them yes.
Can't be can they?
You are being silly again!
Post by David Platt
Post by Leighton Jones
Post by David Platt
Unlike you, I have seen what has been going on in Britain over the last
30 years, while you have been wanking yourself off up in the land nervous
sheep.
You seem to have a thing about Sheep and masturbation!
I'm aware that this is your number one pass time up in them thar hills and
valleys.
*them thar*, you'll find that's not a Welsh saying, I think it's American as
in "There's Gold in *Them thar* hills"
You haven't got about much have you?
Cheers LJ
David Platt
2005-03-08 19:10:50 UTC
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<screeds of retarded dribble snipped>

You're an idiot.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:14:02 UTC
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Post by David Platt
<screeds of retarded dribble snipped>
You're an idiot.
On the contrary, he shows a lot more self-control than you or I do. You
continue to rant, I continue to show you what an ignorant twat you are,
whereas he has the good sense to know that he is wasting his time trying
to talk sense to a mentally retarded racist.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:10:03 UTC
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Post by David Platt
NIger is a place you moron, and nigger is a coloquilaism
No little one, 'nigger is a term of abuse and 'colloquialism' is spelt
like that.

There are no greater ranters in the world than the pig ignorant I always
find.
Maria
2005-03-08 23:31:14 UTC
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 23:10:03 +0100, "John of Aix"
Post by John of Aix
Post by David Platt
NIger is a place you moron, and nigger is a coloquilaism
No little one, 'nigger is a term of abuse and 'colloquialism' is spelt
like that.
It only appears to be a term of abuse if a non-negro says it to a
negro. It doesn't appear to be a term of abuse if a negro says it to
another negro.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:12:22 UTC
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Post by David Platt
I'm aware that this is your number one pass time up in them thar hills
and valleys.
'Pastime' sweetie, 'pastime'.

One would have thought that those who proclaim their
Britishness/Englishness with such vehemence would at least have the good
grace to learn the language before they spout off..
uNkulunkulu
2005-03-08 08:13:28 UTC
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"bluecalx" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 16:44:56 -0800, David Platt <***@mail.com>
: wrote:
:
: >bluecalx wrote:
: >
: >> ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
: >> boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
: >
: >So you're a nigger then.
:
: I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
: racism, though!
:
: >Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
:
: I did know that.
:
: >Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
: >just like apartheid South Africa.
:
: I think it's a ill-considered idea. This sort of myopic thinking
: might have some short-term benefits (which I imagine is what he's
: going for) but the long-term effects of segregating these kids would
: be terrible. They already live in a world full of people like you
: calling them "niggers" --

and I have to live in a world where the niggers call me honky so what the ***@ck
I got broad shoulders. Here is a little verse we all know well, my Granny was
the first to tell it to me

Sticks and stones can break my bones
But names will never hurt me.


they don't need the school system further
: promoting the idea that they're somehow inferior to other students.
:
: >Maybe they were right all along, that seems to be his point,
: >and since Phillips is black he must know what he's talking about, right?
:
: I'm fairly certain Trevor Phillips wouldn't say that South African
: apartheid was a good thing. I'm not quite sure how you came to that
: conclusion.


Apartheid was not good I lived under it for 30 years but there is on average a
big disparity between the races.


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bluecalx
2005-03-08 12:56:32 UTC
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:13:28 GMT, "uNkulunkulu"
Post by uNkulunkulu
: I think it's a ill-considered idea. This sort of myopic thinking
: might have some short-term benefits (which I imagine is what he's
: going for) but the long-term effects of segregating these kids would
: be terrible. They already live in a world full of people like you
: calling them "niggers" --
I got broad shoulders. Here is a little verse we all know well, my Granny was
the first to tell it to me
Sticks and stones can break my bones
But names will never hurt me.
I certainly don't condone black people calling whites "honkies", but
it's a bit different than whites calling blacks "niggers" in a country
where 92% of the population is white and 2% of the population is
black (2001 census). It's a lot easier to shrug off a racial slur
when your race makes up the vast, vast, VAST majority of the
population.
Post by uNkulunkulu
: I'm fairly certain Trevor Phillips wouldn't say that South African
: apartheid was a good thing. I'm not quite sure how you came to that
: conclusion.
Apartheid was not good I lived under it for 30 years but there is on average a
big disparity between the races.
What do you mean by "a big disparity between the races"?
Maria
2005-03-08 09:48:04 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Post by David Platt
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
I did know that.
Post by David Platt
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
I think it's a ill-considered idea. This sort of myopic thinking
might have some short-term benefits (which I imagine is what he's
going for) but the long-term effects of segregating these kids would
be terrible.
Indeed. They shoudl segretate all the 'thick' children regardless of
colour -
1) They might actually be able to get the help they need, as long as
the 'thick' group is considered a dynamic entity where children can
move in and out of it according to what they show they are capable of,
and
b) the children who can do it will not be held back by disruptive
behaviour.
Post by bluecalx
They already live in a world full of people like you
calling them "niggers" -- they don't need the school system further
promoting the idea that they're somehow inferior to other students.
Post by David Platt
Maybe they were right all along, that seems to be his point,
and since Phillips is black he must know what he's talking about, right?
I'm fairly certain Trevor Phillips wouldn't say that South African
apartheid was a good thing. I'm not quite sure how you came to that
conclusion.
There was a programme on the Beeb last night which illustrated how
blacks in the US have moved ahead by affirmative action, which
included the offering of Black and African studies, and to be taught
by black lecturers, and that British blacks are held back by the lack
of black teachers, lack of 'relevant' courses and the absence of other
black students.
Please could someone explain why blacks need those things, or think
that they need those things, in order to prgoress?
Maria
2005-03-08 10:51:20 UTC
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Post by Maria
Post by bluecalx
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
I'm white, actually. Nice to see you're so up-front about your
racism, though!
Post by David Platt
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
I did know that.
Post by David Platt
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
I think it's a ill-considered idea. This sort of myopic thinking
might have some short-term benefits (which I imagine is what he's
going for) but the long-term effects of segregating these kids would
be terrible.
Indeed. They shoudl segretate all the 'thick' children regardless of
colour -
And boys from girls after the age of 12.
bluecalx
2005-03-08 13:15:12 UTC
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Post by Maria
Indeed. They shoudl segretate all the 'thick' children regardless of
colour -
1) They might actually be able to get the help they need, as long as
the 'thick' group is considered a dynamic entity where children can
move in and out of it according to what they show they are capable of,
and
b) the children who can do it will not be held back by disruptive
behaviour.
Agreed. Troubled/underperforming children should be helped as much as
is reasonably possible. There are plenty of white kids out there who
need this attention too.
Post by Maria
There was a programme on the Beeb last night which illustrated how
blacks in the US have moved ahead by affirmative action, which
included the offering of Black and African studies, and to be taught
by black lecturers, and that British blacks are held back by the lack
of black teachers, lack of 'relevant' courses and the absence of other
black students.
Please could someone explain why blacks need those things, or think
that they need those things, in order to prgoress?
I got my undergraduate degree in the States (not surprisingly since
I'm American) and I recall seeing courses in European studies, Latin
American studies, and so on. I'm not sure why people automatically
scoff at African and African American studies. Yes, some of those
courses are probably fluff, but you could say that about courses in
any subject area.

As for your question about why a black student might benefit from
having black teachers and other black students.. well, how would you
feel if you showed up to work one day and your boss as well as all of
your coworkers were black? It would probably be a little unsettling
to be the lone white person (I'm assuming you're white) at work. It
seems to me that a black teacher would also serve as a good role-model
for black students. It's just a matter of perception. I'm sure black
teachers are no better or worse than white teachers from a purely
objective standpoint.
Maria
2005-03-08 13:53:47 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
Post by Maria
Indeed. They shoudl segretate all the 'thick' children regardless of
colour -
1) They might actually be able to get the help they need, as long as
the 'thick' group is considered a dynamic entity where children can
move in and out of it according to what they show they are capable of,
and
b) the children who can do it will not be held back by disruptive
behaviour.
Agreed. Troubled/underperforming children should be helped as much as
is reasonably possible. There are plenty of white kids out there who
need this attention too.
Post by Maria
There was a programme on the Beeb last night which illustrated how
blacks in the US have moved ahead by affirmative action, which
included the offering of Black and African studies, and to be taught
by black lecturers, and that British blacks are held back by the lack
of black teachers, lack of 'relevant' courses and the absence of other
black students.
Please could someone explain why blacks need those things, or think
that they need those things, in order to prgoress?
I got my undergraduate degree in the States (not surprisingly since
I'm American) and I recall seeing courses in European studies, Latin
American studies, and so on. I'm not sure why people automatically
scoff at African and African American studies. Yes, some of those
courses are probably fluff, but you could say that about courses in
any subject area.
There may be another problem then - you appear to think that I was
scoffing at the courses, but actually I wasn't.
Anwyay -
I am taking issue that from the impression that the programme gave, it
was the presence of these courses which encouraged blacks to gain
higher achievements. I don't know if that impression was a correct
representation of the facts.
On the issue of the nature of the courses, I imagine that European
studies here would go down like a lead balloon. White people seem to
be mostly uninterested in their history, white or otherwise, at least
in Britain.
Neiher courses are fluff or rubbish or even unnecessary - I was only
interested to know why blacks would be more encouraged by that than
say business studies or mathematics, or something which would be
useful in gaining employment.
Post by bluecalx
As for your question about why a black student might benefit from
having black teachers and other black students.. well, how would you
feel if you showed up to work one day and your boss as well as all of
your coworkers were black?
Why should it bother me?
Post by bluecalx
It would probably be a little unsettling
to be the lone white person (I'm assuming you're white) at work. It
seems to me that a black teacher would also serve as a good role-model
for black students. It's just a matter of perception.
You know, prejudice is not confined to blacks and other clear-cut
'different' people. I was called pakl, wog, nigger, Luigi etc etc at
school and my life made an utter misery for the entire 5 years of
secondary,to the extent where I lost interest and didn't bother going
because avoiding being bulliied was, to me, more important than
learning. I had no CRE to complain to, and they probably would have
looked at me in a puzzled manner if I had, since I am white.
I would have been more comfortable in a class where nobody bullied me,
but I can't say that would have been whtie people or asians or blacks
or whatever. I was bullied by black people as much as white (to the
extent that they were there).
I think black people are blessed in a way in that they have a group
into which they 'fit' in a clear cut manner, a group which provides
support and community, and which includes other blacks just because
they are black.
There are many of us out here who do not fit into any group (visually)
because we are short, or tall, or odd, or fat or thin or just plain
ugly. or who like me 'look a bit foreign' but not enough to enable an
onlooker to pop us into a pigeonhole with our brothers, but just
enough to be ostracised to some extent by others. We don't have any
brothers. We sometimes become victms of society and have to deal with
it by ourselves because there is no support group or network to help
us. We have no special study subjects to encourage us into education,
and no 'not quite normal' teachers to make us feel at home in the
classroom.

I wish black people could perhaps realise that they are lucky in that
way, to have a strong genetic and cultural identity, and get some
confidence from it, enough to go into the classroom and be happy that
they at least have an identity. If they are bullied at school, (and
bullying is normal, even within a cultural group) there will be other
black people to stand up for them.
Pizza-faced fat kids have nobody!
Post by bluecalx
I'm sure black
teachers are no better or worse than white teachers from a purely
objective standpoint.
They may even be better, because they are perhaps more conscious of
being seen doing their job, which is teaching, instead of getting
bogged down in politicised nonsensical time-wasting.
Energumen
2005-03-08 16:17:16 UTC
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Post by Maria
I wish black people could perhaps realise that they are lucky in that
way, to have a strong genetic and cultural identity, and get some
confidence from it, enough to go into the classroom and be happy that
they at least have an identity. If they are bullied at school, (and
bullying is normal, even within a cultural group) there will be other
black people to stand up for them.
Pizza-faced fat kids have nobody!
Why are school grades by obesity / overweight not recorded? Why assume that
there is no difference? Or height? Or hair colour?
TD
2005-03-08 16:43:51 UTC
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Post by Energumen
Post by Maria
I wish black people could perhaps realise that they are lucky in that
way, to have a strong genetic and cultural identity, and get some
confidence from it, enough to go into the classroom and be happy that
they at least have an identity. If they are bullied at school, (and
bullying is normal, even within a cultural group) there will be other
black people to stand up for them.
Pizza-faced fat kids have nobody!
Why are school grades by obesity / overweight not recorded? Why assume
that there is no difference? Or height? Or hair colour?
I'd like to see a comparison between those who eat foods high in Omega-3 and
those who don't.
Energumen
2005-03-08 18:47:52 UTC
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Post by TD
Post by Energumen
Post by Maria
I wish black people could perhaps realise that they are lucky in that
way, to have a strong genetic and cultural identity, and get some
confidence from it, enough to go into the classroom and be happy that
they at least have an identity. If they are bullied at school, (and
bullying is normal, even within a cultural group) there will be other
black people to stand up for them.
Pizza-faced fat kids have nobody!
Why are school grades by obesity / overweight not recorded? Why assume
that there is no difference? Or height? Or hair colour?
I'd like to see a comparison between those who eat foods high in Omega-3
and those who don't.
It would be a sensible initial hypothesis that there may be a difference
since,
A) Omega 3 is the basic building block of brain and nerve tissues. It is
fundamental to these tissues.
B) We eat a lot less of it than was present in the diet we evolved on.
C) It is not substitutable through conversion of other fatty acids in the
diet.

It's pretty unsubtle, but since no-one seems to have asked the question we
may as well start with testing the simple hypotheses.
Maria
2005-03-08 20:27:22 UTC
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:17:16 -0000, "Energumen"
Post by Energumen
Post by Maria
I wish black people could perhaps realise that they are lucky in that
way, to have a strong genetic and cultural identity, and get some
confidence from it, enough to go into the classroom and be happy that
they at least have an identity. If they are bullied at school, (and
bullying is normal, even within a cultural group) there will be other
black people to stand up for them.
Pizza-faced fat kids have nobody!
Why are school grades by obesity / overweight not recorded? Why assume that
there is no difference? Or height? Or hair colour?
Indeed. And not getting sufficient sleep, which as a parent of five I
can definitely say appears to be a really important factor.
Maria
2005-03-08 22:47:18 UTC
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Post by Maria
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:17:16 -0000, "Energumen"
Post by Energumen
Post by Maria
I wish black people could perhaps realise that they are lucky in that
way, to have a strong genetic and cultural identity, and get some
confidence from it, enough to go into the classroom and be happy that
they at least have an identity. If they are bullied at school, (and
bullying is normal, even within a cultural group) there will be other
black people to stand up for them.
Pizza-faced fat kids have nobody!
Why are school grades by obesity / overweight not recorded? Why assume that
there is no difference? Or height? Or hair colour?
Indeed. And not getting sufficient sleep, which as a parent of five I
can definitely say appears to be a really important factor.
...and also lack of physical exercise.

(PE is now a compulsory option for GCSE phase...)
BIG ONE
2005-03-08 21:56:19 UTC
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Post by Maria
Black and African studies
is that something like eugenics?

am I the only one who finds the seemingly constant 'black history
month' a waste of resources
Maria
2005-03-08 22:08:45 UTC
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Post by BIG ONE
Post by Maria
Black and African studies
is that something like eugenics?
am I the only one who finds the seemingly constant 'black history
month' a waste of resources
The study of history is never a waste of money.
IMHO of course :)
bluecalx
2005-03-09 00:19:22 UTC
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Post by BIG ONE
Post by Maria
Black and African studies
is that something like eugenics?
Uh, no. "African Studies" is the study of the history and culture of
Africa. "African-American Studies" in the States is the study of the
history and culture of the African-American community in the US. Both
would fall under the larger umbrella of sociology/anthropology.
Post by BIG ONE
am I the only one who finds the seemingly constant 'black history
month' a waste of resources
I'm not sure if one month per year (February in the US, October in the
UK) really qualifies as "constant".
John of Aix
2005-03-08 11:29:27 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
Bwahahahaaha. What like Pass-books, regular beatings by the police,
banning from public places, restaurants and even their homes you mean?
Yes that's it I'm sure that's what Phillips is advocating.

Why don't you apply for a brain transplant? You're so in need of one
you'd go straight to the top of the waiting list along with the rest of
the BNP members
bluecalx
2005-03-08 13:20:59 UTC
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:29:27 +0100, "John of Aix"
Post by John of Aix
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
Bwahahahaaha. What like Pass-books, regular beatings by the police,
banning from public places, restaurants and even their homes you mean?
Yes that's it I'm sure that's what Phillips is advocating.
Why don't you apply for a brain transplant? You're so in need of one
you'd go straight to the top of the waiting list along with the rest of
the BNP members
Because the NHS is all clogged up with those damned immigrants! A
god-fearing white Brit like David Platt just can't catch a break in
this country..
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:34:46 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:29:27 +0100, "John of Aix"
Post by John of Aix
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
Bwahahahaaha. What like Pass-books, regular beatings by the police,
banning from public places, restaurants and even their homes you mean?
Yes that's it I'm sure that's what Phillips is advocating.
Why don't you apply for a brain transplant? You're so in need of one
you'd go straight to the top of the waiting list along with the rest of
the BNP members
Because the NHS is all clogged up with those damned immigrants! A
god-fearing white Brit like David Platt just can't catch a break in
this country..
This is actually true, and not ironic as you seem to believe.
So why don't you take your own advice and fuck off back to the shit hole
you came from.
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:33:54 UTC
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Post by John of Aix
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
Bwahahahaaha. What like Pass-books, regular beatings by the police,
banning from public places, restaurants and even their homes you mean?
Yes that's it I'm sure that's what Phillips is advocating.
That's roecisely what Robert Mugabe has turned Zimbabwe into.
Post by John of Aix
Why don't you apply for a brain transplant? You're so in need of one
you'd go straight to the top of the waiting list along with the rest of
the BNP members
YOu don't have a brain to transplant you thick irish peasant.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 22:19:38 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Post by John of Aix
Post by David Platt
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
So you're a nigger then.
Did you know that Trevor Phillips is black too?
Why do you think he is recommending racial segregation,
just like apartheid South Africa.
Bwahahahaaha. What like Pass-books, regular beatings by the police,
banning from public places, restaurants and even their homes you
mean? Yes that's it I'm sure that's what Phillips is advocating.
That's roecisely what Robert Mugabe has turned Zimbabwe into.
No it isn't. For all his bollocks it is not that. Prove the contrary if
you can (I won't be holding my breath).
Post by David Platt
Post by John of Aix
Why don't you apply for a brain transplant? You're so in need of one
you'd go straight to the top of the waiting list along with the rest
of the BNP members
YOu don't have a brain to transplant you thick irish peasant.
I have an IQ beyond the scale little one (on official records too), how
about you?
i***@yahoo.co.uk
2005-03-08 01:46:36 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British
Post by bluecalx
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
There are plenty of black african females in er... africa. If they are
so good, why is it such an unrivalled example of stupidity and gross
under achievement? Further more, the blacks in question are Caribbean,
descendants of the useless bums and dregs sold off by the not so dead
beat africans.
Maria
2005-03-08 09:48:58 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British
Post by bluecalx
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
There are plenty of black african females in er... africa. If they are
so good, why is it such an unrivalled example of stupidity and gross
under achievement?
For the same reason that so many whites under-acheive? Like lack of
aspirations?
Post by bluecalx
Further more, the blacks in question are Caribbean,
descendants of the useless bums and dregs sold off by the not so dead
beat africans.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 11:34:24 UTC
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Post by i***@yahoo.co.uk
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
There are plenty of black african females in er... africa. If they are
so good, why is it such an unrivalled example of stupidity and gross
under achievement?
If you knew anything at all about Africa you would know that African
women are extremely dynamic and some, very successful, however they do
not run Africa, men do.
bluecalx
2005-03-08 13:18:33 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British
Post by bluecalx
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
There are plenty of black african females in er... africa. If they are
so good, why is it such an unrivalled example of stupidity and gross
under achievement?
Because much of Africa is a complete mess right now? Poverty and
civil war aren't conducive to learning. Drop a white British kid into
that situation and he'll fare just as badly.
Maria
2005-03-08 13:25:01 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British
Post by bluecalx
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
There are plenty of black african females in er... africa. If they are
so good, why is it such an unrivalled example of stupidity and gross
under achievement?
Because much of Africa is a complete mess right now? Poverty and
civil war aren't conducive to learning. Drop a white British kid into
that situation and he'll fare just as badly.
40% do badly in Britain.
bluecalx
2005-03-08 13:38:31 UTC
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Post by Maria
Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British
Post by bluecalx
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
There are plenty of black african females in er... africa. If they are
so good, why is it such an unrivalled example of stupidity and gross
under achievement?
Because much of Africa is a complete mess right now? Poverty and
civil war aren't conducive to learning. Drop a white British kid into
that situation and he'll fare just as badly.
40% do badly in Britain.
You asked about Africa, not Britain.
Maria
2005-03-08 13:56:30 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
Post by Maria
Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
Post by bluecalx
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white
British
Post by bluecalx
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
There are plenty of black african females in er... africa. If they are
so good, why is it such an unrivalled example of stupidity and gross
under achievement?
Because much of Africa is a complete mess right now? Poverty and
civil war aren't conducive to learning. Drop a white British kid into
that situation and he'll fare just as badly.
40% do badly in Britain.
You asked about Africa, not Britain.
We can always find excuses why people do badly - it remains that even
given free education in a war-free prosperous and wealthy country
where people want for nothing, 40% fail.
There are other factors IMHO - that is why people from poor Indian
villages often do well. Indian people do not seem to have lost their
aspiration that education is vital to success, while many others
(including in this country) have.
Joe Hutcheon
2005-03-08 14:05:22 UTC
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Post by Maria
We can always find excuses why people do badly - it remains that even
given free education in a war-free prosperous and wealthy country
where people want for nothing, 40% fail.
There are other factors IMHO - that is why people from poor Indian
villages often do well. Indian people do not seem to have lost their
aspiration that education is vital to success, while many others
(including in this country) have.
It's more that they've never had it. Back when I were a lad, the
non-academic types just wanted to be out of school and earning at age 15,
because there were still loads of unskilled, relatively highly-paid jobs to
be had, and as for the females, they expected to be married with children by
20 or so, so they saw little point in studying either.

That mindset hasn't changed much, even since my parents' schooldays
(1920s/30s).
Maria
2005-03-08 14:08:17 UTC
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:05:22 -0000, "Joe Hutcheon"
Post by Joe Hutcheon
Post by Maria
We can always find excuses why people do badly - it remains that even
given free education in a war-free prosperous and wealthy country
where people want for nothing, 40% fail.
There are other factors IMHO - that is why people from poor Indian
villages often do well. Indian people do not seem to have lost their
aspiration that education is vital to success, while many others
(including in this country) have.
It's more that they've never had it. Back when I were a lad, the
non-academic types just wanted to be out of school and earning at age 15,
because there were still loads of unskilled, relatively highly-paid jobs to
be had, and as for the females, they expected to be married with children by
20 or so, so they saw little point in studying either.
That mindset hasn't changed much, even since my parents' schooldays
(1920s/30s).
True. My daughter has friends who just want to get married and have
children, and have no idea what work they want to do.
I don't think we are allowed to talk about them though because it
'undermines the feminist cause' or something.

Until people do accept that this is true, they will always be
scratching their heads and wondering why teenage girls get pregnant!
Joe Hutcheon
2005-03-08 14:15:17 UTC
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Post by Maria
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:05:22 -0000, "Joe Hutcheon"
Post by Joe Hutcheon
Post by Maria
We can always find excuses why people do badly - it remains that even
given free education in a war-free prosperous and wealthy country
where people want for nothing, 40% fail.
There are other factors IMHO - that is why people from poor Indian
villages often do well. Indian people do not seem to have lost their
aspiration that education is vital to success, while many others
(including in this country) have.
It's more that they've never had it. Back when I were a lad, the
non-academic types just wanted to be out of school and earning at age 15,
because there were still loads of unskilled, relatively highly-paid jobs to
be had, and as for the females, they expected to be married with children by
20 or so, so they saw little point in studying either.
That mindset hasn't changed much, even since my parents' schooldays
(1920s/30s).
True. My daughter has friends who just want to get married and have
children, and have no idea what work they want to do.
I don't think we are allowed to talk about them though because it
'undermines the feminist cause' or something.
My sisters were like that. One married at 19, the other at 21, and that was
considered leaving it a bit late. My brother's wife was 17 when they
married! It's quite frightening in a way, as I recall what an eejit I was
at that age.
Post by Maria
Until people do accept that this is true, they will always be
scratching their heads and wondering why teenage girls get pregnant!
It's one of those things that everyone knows about, but no-one mentions.
Alan G
2005-03-08 18:07:02 UTC
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Post by Maria
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:05:22 -0000, "Joe Hutcheon"
Post by Joe Hutcheon
Post by Maria
We can always find excuses why people do badly - it remains that even
given free education in a war-free prosperous and wealthy country
where people want for nothing, 40% fail.
There are other factors IMHO - that is why people from poor Indian
villages often do well. Indian people do not seem to have lost their
aspiration that education is vital to success, while many others
(including in this country) have.
It's more that they've never had it. Back when I were a lad, the
non-academic types just wanted to be out of school and earning at age 15,
because there were still loads of unskilled, relatively highly-paid jobs to
be had, and as for the females, they expected to be married with children by
20 or so, so they saw little point in studying either.
That mindset hasn't changed much, even since my parents' schooldays
(1920s/30s).
True. My daughter has friends who just want to get married and have
children, and have no idea what work they want to do.
Perhaps they haven't been exposed to the choices available or have
been already labelled as slapper material and started believing it.
That was the usual cause when me and my wife left school and my kids
reckon it was pretty much the same when they left 20 odd years later
Post by Maria
I don't think we are allowed to talk about them though because it
'undermines the feminist cause' or something.
Until people do accept that this is true, they will always be
scratching their heads and wondering why teenage girls get pregnant!
Anyone not knowing why that happens needs to go back to school and
give the biology teacher a good rollicking.
Energumen
2005-03-08 19:01:39 UTC
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Post by Alan G
Post by Maria
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:05:22 -0000, "Joe Hutcheon"
Post by Joe Hutcheon
Post by Maria
We can always find excuses why people do badly - it remains that even
given free education in a war-free prosperous and wealthy country
where people want for nothing, 40% fail.
There are other factors IMHO - that is why people from poor Indian
villages often do well. Indian people do not seem to have lost their
aspiration that education is vital to success, while many others
(including in this country) have.
It's more that they've never had it. Back when I were a lad, the
non-academic types just wanted to be out of school and earning at age 15,
because there were still loads of unskilled, relatively highly-paid jobs to
be had, and as for the females, they expected to be married with children by
20 or so, so they saw little point in studying either.
That mindset hasn't changed much, even since my parents' schooldays
(1920s/30s).
True. My daughter has friends who just want to get married and have
children, and have no idea what work they want to do.
Perhaps they haven't been exposed to the choices available or have
been already labelled as slapper material and started believing it.
How does getting married and having children make someone a slapper?
What are the "choices" you're talking about?
The country is full of people taking degrees and building up large debts who
end up working as admin assistants, secretaries etc. ie, jobs which used to
not require a degree.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3653663.stm
Post by Alan G
That was the usual cause when me and my wife left school and my kids
reckon it was pretty much the same when they left 20 odd years later
Do you not think it's possible that someone might weigh up their options and
actually choose it? At least some of the time.
Maria
2005-03-08 20:30:17 UTC
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 19:01:39 -0000, "Energumen"
Post by Energumen
Post by Alan G
Post by Maria
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:05:22 -0000, "Joe Hutcheon"
Post by Joe Hutcheon
Post by Maria
We can always find excuses why people do badly - it remains that even
given free education in a war-free prosperous and wealthy country
where people want for nothing, 40% fail.
There are other factors IMHO - that is why people from poor Indian
villages often do well. Indian people do not seem to have lost their
aspiration that education is vital to success, while many others
(including in this country) have.
It's more that they've never had it. Back when I were a lad, the
non-academic types just wanted to be out of school and earning at age 15,
because there were still loads of unskilled, relatively highly-paid jobs to
be had, and as for the females, they expected to be married with children by
20 or so, so they saw little point in studying either.
That mindset hasn't changed much, even since my parents' schooldays
(1920s/30s).
True. My daughter has friends who just want to get married and have
children, and have no idea what work they want to do.
Perhaps they haven't been exposed to the choices available or have
been already labelled as slapper material and started believing it.
How does getting married and having children make someone a slapper?
What are the "choices" you're talking about?
The country is full of people taking degrees and building up large debts who
end up working as admin assistants, secretaries etc. ie, jobs which used to
not require a degree.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3653663.stm
Childrearing is a highly suitable occupation. :)
Post by Energumen
Post by Alan G
That was the usual cause when me and my wife left school and my kids
reckon it was pretty much the same when they left 20 odd years later
Do you not think it's possible that someone might weigh up their options and
actually choose it? At least some of the time.
Less and less apparently - 'whites' may die out at this rate without
some encouragement.
Encouragement could be given by not removing parental rights and not
(as a society) considering children as some kind of burden.
I don't know how it goes in the US, but the rest of the world seems to
hold children in high esteem, while here they are just becoming a
costly nuisance. Similarly with the elderly.
JA**
2005-03-08 02:10:48 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4323979.stm
"Black boys may have to be separated from classmates to help improve
school performance, the head of the Commission for Racial Equality has
suggested.
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Phillips can't have it both ways, wanting anti-discrimination legislation,
but only for the benefit of certain sections of society. If you ask me he is
just creating strife and should leave well alone, and perhaps even get a
proper job!


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Brian Watson
2005-03-08 07:07:47 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4323979.stm
"Black boys may have to be separated from classmates to help improve
school performance, the head of the Commission for Racial Equality has
suggested.
Just what we need this near to an election - a political blackmail story.
--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"
Edwina Frogbucket
2005-03-08 02:18:40 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4323979.stm
I just know you people are chomping at the bit to complain about black
people, so let's hear your opinions on this! I look forward to lots
of well- reasoned responses which surely won't have even a trace of
racism or bigotry. Don't let me down, usenet!
The way I see it is that many black lads have a kind of culture which makes
them see schooling as uncool (gangs are cool, bling is cool - learning
isn't). Also, because of this victim mentality that's been drummed into
them, they are very 'anti' anything mainstream and establishment like
education for example. Further add the fact that many come from families
with no permanent father-figure and a disrespect for women (ho's). The
final ingredient is, since Stephen Lawrence they probably feel rather
untouchable because they can cry racism whenever it suits them and nervous
teachers know that.


Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
Maria
2005-03-08 09:53:32 UTC
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Post by Edwina Frogbucket
Post by bluecalx
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4323979.stm
I just know you people are chomping at the bit to complain about black
people, so let's hear your opinions on this! I look forward to lots
of well- reasoned responses which surely won't have even a trace of
racism or bigotry. Don't let me down, usenet!
The way I see it is that many black lads have a kind of culture which makes
them see schooling as uncool (gangs are cool, bling is cool - learning
isn't).
Don't they also have this attitude in Hull and Essex? :)
Post by Edwina Frogbucket
Also, because of this victim mentality that's been drummed into
them, they are very 'anti' anything mainstream and establishment like
education for example. Further add the fact that many come from families
with no permanent father-figure and a disrespect for women (ho's).
I think that last point is rather misleading - in spite of the
apparent lack of respect for black women, black women are actually
very independent and are quite capable of giving as good as they get.
Possibly the black male attitiude to them is a symptom of that - they
aren't actually needed very much, and they often aren't wanted.
Post by Edwina Frogbucket
The
final ingredient is, since Stephen Lawrence they probably feel rather
untouchable because they can cry racism whenever it suits them and nervous
teachers know that.
Goes deeper than that - my little ones went to a white middle-class
nursery for a while, and they could not even touch them to check them
for nits because that is what the rules said.
All children have become 'untouchable', not just blacks (but with
different excuses perhaps).
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
2005-03-08 13:37:44 UTC
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Post by Maria
Post by Edwina Frogbucket
The way I see it is that many black lads have a kind of culture which makes
them see schooling as uncool (gangs are cool, bling is cool - learning
isn't).
Don't they also have this attitude in Hull and Essex? :)
Sure, but I think it's 'black' culture that's largely to blame for that.
Well, it was in the schools in London when I lived there.
Post by Maria
Post by Edwina Frogbucket
Also, because of this victim mentality that's been drummed into
them, they are very 'anti' anything mainstream and establishment like
education for example. Further add the fact that many come from families
with no permanent father-figure and a disrespect for women (ho's).
I think that last point is rather misleading - in spite of the
apparent lack of respect for black women, black women are actually
very independent and are quite capable of giving as good as they get.
Possibly the black male attitiude to them is a symptom of that - they
aren't actually needed very much, and they often aren't wanted.
What came first? Chicken or egg? Old Jamaican ladies are also very strong
but they are also very family-minded too and believe in the traditional two
parent family. Something's gone wrong somewhere and many in the black
community have woken up to this fact too.
Post by Maria
Post by Edwina Frogbucket
The
final ingredient is, since Stephen Lawrence they probably feel rather
untouchable because they can cry racism whenever it suits them and nervous
teachers know that.
Goes deeper than that - my little ones went to a white middle-class
nursery for a while, and they could not even touch them to check them
for nits because that is what the rules said.
All children have become 'untouchable', not just blacks (but with
different excuses perhaps).
I dunno, Maria. When I moved my daughter from an ethnically diverse school
to a mainly white one, the difference in discipline was very different.
However, the school has since changed and a lot of black kids attend now and
very slowly the school has changed. An example of this is regarding
uniform. The black girls came to school wearing short skirts (banned),
flashy jewellery (banned) and twenty-foot fingernails (banned). Because the
teachers were afraid to tackle them (have you seen a teenage black girl lose
her cool? Scary...) the whole standard slipped as the other girls began to
disregard the rules too.
Honest.
--
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
David Platt
2005-03-08 17:36:31 UTC
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Post by Edwina Frogbucket
Post by bluecalx
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4323979.stm
I just know you people are chomping at the bit to complain about black
people, so let's hear your opinions on this! I look forward to lots
of well- reasoned responses which surely won't have even a trace of
racism or bigotry. Don't let me down, usenet!
The way I see it is that many black lads have a kind of culture which makes
them see schooling as uncool (gangs are cool, bling is cool - learning
isn't). Also, because of this victim mentality that's been drummed into
them, they are very 'anti' anything mainstream and establishment like
education for example. Further add the fact that many come from families
with no permanent father-figure and a disrespect for women (ho's). The
final ingredient is, since Stephen Lawrence they probably feel rather
untouchable because they can cry racism whenever it suits them and nervous
teachers know that.
It's not culture, it's their inbred laziness.
It's easy to have ganster rappers as tole models, all you need to do is
get a gun and steal what you want, it is this simplicity of crime that
is appealing to the lazy retarded black mind.
Truly this is what these people are, lazy criminals.
Expect no more from them than that.
John of Aix
2005-03-08 23:29:52 UTC
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Post by David Platt
Post by Edwina Frogbucket
The way I see it is that many black lads have a kind of culture
which makes them see schooling as uncool (gangs are cool, bling is
cool - learning isn't). Also, because of this victim mentality
that's been drummed into them, they are very 'anti' anything
mainstream and establishment like education for example. Further
add the fact that many come from families with no permanent
father-figure and a disrespect for women (ho's). The final
ingredient is, since Stephen Lawrence they probably feel rather
untouchable because they can cry racism whenever it suits them and
nervous teachers know that.
It's not culture, it's their inbred laziness.
If the blacks had 'inbred laziness' you wouldn't have got very far when
they were exploited as slaves would you? Who does the work in Britain,
the real 'work' in the sense of physics that is? It ain't the slobby
whites with their junk food, couch potato attitude and xenophobia.
Without the immigrants who run the railways, the health service and
christ know what else Britain would be a third world country. All I hope
is that their 'innate laziness' comes to a head the next time you are in
hospital and they leave you to die on a trolley, Britain will be far
better off for it.
Starry
2005-03-08 15:38:18 UTC
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Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Its not a new trend its been the same since dawn of time,
list some black achivements in any of these fields (I dont know of any)
scientific:0
inventive:0
medicine:0
arts (not graffiti):0


The truth is black males always been less intelligent than the rest of the
world's populations
just fools etc keep blaming enviromental circumstances all the time as its
easier to excuse than facing the reality that the majority of black males
are not very intelligent. (Mr Phillips is a classic example of just how
dumb, put in the public eye we all get to see him continually fuking up)
Post by bluecalx
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4323979.stm
"Black boys may have to be separated from classmates to help improve
school performance, the head of the Commission for Racial Equality has
suggested.
Trevor Phillips also suggested black fathers not living with their
sons should be denied access if they refused to attend parents'
evenings."
And so on.
I just know you people are chomping at the bit to complain about black
people, so let's hear your opinions on this! I look forward to lots
of well- reasoned responses which surely won't have even a trace of
racism or bigotry. Don't let me down, usenet!
ps: Haha. Black African females do better in school than white British
boys! Eat THAT, whitey!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/3517171.stm
bluecalx
2005-03-08 16:36:42 UTC
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:38:18 GMT, "Starry"
Post by Starry
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Its not a new trend its been the same since dawn of time,
list some black achivements in any of these fields (I dont know of any)
scientific:0
inventive:0
medicine:0
Here's about 200 prominent black scientists. Enjoy!

http://www.princeton.edu/~mcbrown/display/faces.html


And here's some more, including a list of black inventors:

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmscientists1.html

Some things invented by black people include:

- a method for refining sugar
- a new, far more efficient lubrication system for steam trains
- a telegraph system allowing moving trains to communicate with
stations
- a type of gas mask used to protect soldiers during WWI
- a self-starting gas engine
- the first refrigeration system for long-haul trucks
- the first automated stop/go signs (which later became traffic
lights)
Post by Starry
arts (not graffiti):0
Well, how about that; I found a list of loads of accomplished black
artists too!

http://www.askart.com/interest/blackamerican_a.asp
Post by Starry
The truth is black males always been less intelligent than the rest of the
world's populations
just fools etc keep blaming enviromental circumstances all the time as its
easier to excuse than facing the reality that the majority of black males
are not very intelligent. (Mr Phillips is a classic example of just how
dumb, put in the public eye we all get to see him continually fuking up)
You're an idiot.
BrianE
2005-03-08 19:06:49 UTC
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Post by bluecalx
You're an idiot.
Nice one BC
John of Aix
2005-03-08 23:19:03 UTC
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Post by Starry
The truth is black males always been less intelligent than the rest
of the world's populations
Absolute complete and utter nonsense based on nothing at all other than
your racism and I defy you to prove the contrary. You seem to be
confusing intelligence and education but that is probably because you
have neither.
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